Unfortunately, Brett Favre and the Vikings won round 1 against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. I’m very disappointed by the loss, but I still feel extremely confident that Ted Thompson made the right decision a few years ago when he picked Aaron Rodgers over Brett Favre.
So, I thought I would compare Favre and Rodgers thru their first 20 career starts.
Brett Favre
1992 – 1993
406 Completions
645 Attempts
63.3% Completion Percentage
4356 Passing Yards
27 Touchdowns
21 Interceptions
86.0 QB Rating
Aaron Rodgers
2008 – 2009
418 Completions
663 Attempts
63.5% Completion Percentage
5136 Passing Yards
34 Touchdowns
14 Interceptions
96.5 QB Rating
Once again, I feel pretty confident that Ted Thompson made the right move.
Haha. I like how you leave out the most important part, Wins and Losses! Stats have nothing to do with winning. Maybe you think Thompson made the right decision for your fantasy team. Great! Good for you and all the other nerds who have him on their team. But Favre was a winner in his first 20 starts, and Rodgers is a loser. Plain and simple.
Ok, that’s fine. According to your theory, Kyle Orton and Rex Grossman were better thru 20 starts then Brett Favre. Favre was 12-8 in his first 20 starts, Orton was 13-7 and Grossman was 15-5.
Aaron Rodgers will be fine; he already is. Who would you want as your starter, Orton? Smith? Maybe Bubby Brister? The issue isn’t AR, it’s the “offensive” line…aptly named. Rodgers will be great, if he doesn’t get killed in the meantime. I’m ready to see Raji or Hawk play left tackle at this point.
Ha Ha Ha. Brian you are just drinking the Favre kool-aid like the announcers were last night. If you were a Packers fan, think back to the number of games Favre fucked us with interceptions. I looked at the stats of what most people would consider the best all time quarterbacks and Favre has the highest INT % per attempt than all of them. Remember the playoffs vs. the Giants? Game on the line, Favre fails?? He may be good in week 4, but lets see how he is in week 14. Ask the Jets about their great start and dismal finish. He is old and old. Strong starter, old finisher. Oh and Vikings fans….good luck next year w/o him or with him or w/o him…who knows. FACT.
Wow, Brian, I hope that was sarcastic. For your sake. Because if not, it was one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever seen expressed in written form.
Brian, I remember the 1992 and 1993 seasons and watching Favre play. They had a decent defense and a veteran and healthy offensive line in those years. Oh, and there was this other guy named Sterling Sharp and some guy named Reggie White in his second year. I remember Favre being exciting but at times wishing they would put Majkowski back in because he was so erratic. And Favre’s highly anticipated 2nd year was a huge disappointment as he made poor decisions, held on to the ball too long and was wildly inconsistant. Being old enough at the time to remember how he played then, I think the packers are better off now with Rodgers than they would be with the current team and the early Favre.
With everything said, I don’t expect Rodgers to have a better career than Favre. I just think it’s obvious that Thompson made the right decision and Rodgers has been remarkable since he became the starter.
Wow, great stat look up! I feel better already…
uh not really. But if we have an O-line that is even decent, we’re undefeated.
FACT
I thought I would compare the team that Favre joined at the start of his Packer career to the team Rodgers joined:
1991: 4-12
2007: 13-3
Rodgers is a good QB, that is not my point. My point is, pretending that it doens’t matter what kind of players are on the filed with the guy when he throws the ball is kinda silly.
Favre is of legendary status and still living the dream. A record setting style of play and success. A lock to become one of the unforgotton hall of fame members. A player who will not be forgotten in time. He simply shatters the stats of Bart Starr and the others before him. Aaron Rodgers hasn’t entered the stadium yet in terms of comparing him to Favre. Rodgers is 8-12 as a starter and developing at the same rate as his inexperienced team. Charisma is not taught or learned but rather a virtue, born in Favre to allure the Green Bay allegiance to a storied time that only our fathers knew of, the glory years. Rodgers was not born of the same character and we see evidence of the fade in comparison as a majority of titletown fans reminiscence of days gone by.
1991: 4-12
2007: 13-3
Remember that in 2006 the team was 4-12 as well meaning that 2007 team was a partially the beneficiary of an easier schedule. The NFL adjusts the strenght of schedule based upon prior year results.
Umm…stats have everything to do with it, considering TD’s is a stat!! Yards get you closer to TD’s…and that’s a stat. Also, please consider this…when you have an elite defense that shuts out the opposing offense, you can win with very little points so long as you outscore you opponent. Now, the Packer defense hasn’t been great…and teams were running all over them with points. A-Rod will be an elite QB…he already is. If he had the defense Favre did…we’d be looking at many more wins for Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers is already a very good quarterback and with the eventual development of a quality offensive line will probably develop into an elite quarterback. Favre gave the Packers many years of excitement and hope but…last time that Favre and the Vikings beat the Packers at Lambeau, it wasn’t the first time that Favre beat the Packers at Lambeau.
Tim Clark:
“Remember that in 2006 the team was 4-12 as well meaning that 2007 team was a partially the beneficiary of an easier schedule. The NFL adjusts the strenght of schedule based upon prior year results.”
No, the 4-12 team was in 2005, the one with all the injuries. The 2006 team was 8-8.
Anyway, I don’t buy into this ‘comparing stats’ argument. You sort of defeated your own argument when you answered the first poster with the records of Orton and Grossman in their first two years. By doing that, it basically proves that the first two years of a career don’t mean a damn thing. Bottom line, Favre makes an average team look great and Rodgers can’t. At least not yet. Rodgers will be a good QB given time, but he will never be in any “greatest ever” talk with the likes of Unitas, Montana, Favre, Young, Elway, Marino, Starr, P. Manning, etc.
And to Aaron…Favre only had a great defense for a couple years in the mid-1990s. I remember him having shitty defenses most of his career (like back in 2003 when they gave up the 4th and 26 to the Eagles in the playoffs). The Vikings defense this year is nearly as good as the Packer defense in 1996, if the secondary can get healthy and play a bit better.
I don’t know if the 2003 defense was “Shitty”. It was ranked 11th in the league in Yards Allowed. For a comparison, last year’s defense was ranked 20th in the league in Yards Allowed.
If favre was behind the o-lin rodgers has to deal with, he would be in two pieces.
You cannot judge a quarterback on just wins. If the defense allows a game winning drive to make it 49-53, is the qb a bad quarterback because he lost even though he had 6 td’s, 400yds, and 0 int? If the game is won 7-0 and the only score is a punt return for td, is the quarterback great because he gets the win even with 0 td, 100 yds, and 5 ints? That doesnt make sense…
For wins and losses, there are a lot of other factors involved outside the qb’s skill level. quality of running game, quality of recievers and tight ends, quality of o-line blocking pass rushers… etc. If a qb was quarterbacking 5 year olds against an nfl team, he wouldnt win. and that doesnt mean they are not good.
You cannot put it in terms of ‘wins’ and ‘losses’…there are plenty of other people on the team responsible for performing. Even the greatest general cannot win without good recruits. Thanks brandon.
So – Yes , stats are EVERYTHING in football ! Rodgers is by far better than Brett Faker was
The Packers Have their problems – but Rodgers is not one at all. A few years ago the Viqueens made it into the playoffs with a wildcard and beat the Packers (w/Faker) out. That is exactly what is going to happen this year – the Packers have really gotten their crap 2gether and are playing better Football than the Viqueens. Arizona just walked all over Minn. :-) Mark my words – “those purple wussies are bound for doom – it’s their fate “…
I think Leroy Butler has a point. Farve is a diva! He has When the TEAM wins he takes the credit, when they lose WE have alot of work to do. Im so glad the Drama is over. I think when the dust settles Ted Thompson will look like a genious!
Rodgers is already one of the most exciting QBs in the league. A 2nd year starter that has over 8000 yards passing, nearly 60 tds, 64 percent completions and less than 25 picks. Sounds pretty damn good to me.
For 16 years Favre was all ours and we couldn’t imagine him ever playing anywhere else. But let’s get real, franchise superstars move on. I will always cherish the memories of Favre as I will Rodgers.
Amazing to me that Packer fans still try to compare these two guys! The Packers are incredibly lucky to have Rodgers and when you look back at the history of the NFL only once has a legend at QB been followed by someone like Rodgers and that was Steve Young following Montana. Does anyone really think Favre would have played well on the Packers at the beginning of the year! He always crumbles under pressure and has shown that at the end of this year when teams got pressure on him after shutting down the run. Favre did get rid of the ball faster but with the way our line was playing he would have had a ton of interceptions at the beginning of this year and we would have been lucky to be 4-4. Favre was a great QB and no one can deny that, but he wasn’t going to last forever and we appear to have another decade hopefully with a first rate QB! Not a huge Nugget head Ted fan myself but gets sickening listening to Packer fans bicker over something stupid all the time. Rodgers has been amazing for being so young and will only get better.
I just want to see the Packers get past the Cardinals today (Jan. 10) and eventually face the Vikings for a Rodgers-Favre post-season matchup. Two good teams, two undeniably great quarterbacks. Should be an awesome game.
Comparisons like this are ridiculous.
Didn’t Rodgers have the benefit from:
1) learning the offense over years w/o pressure
2) observe Favre in action and learn (+/-)
3) playing for better overall team to with far better receivers
4) playing in a league much more “passing oriented” than Favre’s
first 2 yrs
Don’t get me wrong, I like Rodgers but a comparison is foolish..
The only one that likes Rodgers is the Packer fans that turned on Favre lol no one likes Rodgers, lol look at him after every game he is the only player that no one is shaking hands with lol ha ha ha that cause he has no personality ,Favre on the other hand is liked by every one and that KIll Rodgeres even more lmao,im not a Packers fan but i love Favre he is the real deal one of a kind and one of the best of all time
Rodgers just another QB nothing great about him hes just OK and will never be great